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Smojphace has never been an alias

I don't disagree that at least one of the provided citations names "Smojphace" as an alias. But the source is simply wrong - the Smojphace EP was released as AFX, and Smojphace has never been used an alias of RDJ. The rest of the article as well as the discography confirms this. Vertigo Acid (talk) 23:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vertigo Acid: Regardless of the rightness or wrongness, this insignificant nickname/alias isn’t sufficiently noteworthy to include here. I think you can WP:boldly remove it. Cambial — foliar❧ 23:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James "known" for working in jungle

I am re-opening discussion begun by Dracodrago1330 over at this archived post, and re-posting my current response: The following 6 sources Cambial Yellowing is employing here do not support the current assertion that James "is known for his work in electronic styles such as... jungle."

The Dummy article refers to "his go-to touchstones – electro, acid, jungle". Describes these genres as touchstones, not genres he is known for working in. Therefore, does not support assertion that he is known for working in jungle.
The Times mentions one track of "futuristic jungle", but nowhere suggests that James is "known for his work in electronic styles such as ... jungle". Does not support assertion he is known for working in jungle.
Passion states that "He has devised his own singular versions of ambient, drum & bass, jungle, acid house, and Detroit techno." Unless one would also argue that James is also known for making Detroit techno or acid house, then this vague statement about "his own versions" doesn't support the article assertion that he is "known" for working in jungle. Alternately, we would have to add these genres to an infobox alongside jungle.
EB states that ""few other electronic composers have managed to draw on so many distinct styles... with Aphex Twin, ambient, techno, IDM, acid and jungle aren’t just stylistic decisions; they’re palettes." This states that his work draws on various genres. Does not state that James is known for working in jungle. Does not support sentence.
The cited older version of his AllMusic bio describes the HAB EPs as "a *fusion* of experimental music and jungle," not a jungle release. This conditions the subsequent sentence about "forays" into "acid-jungle and experimental music," which likewise does not describe any specific recording as jungle. Nowhere does it suggest that James is known for working in jungle. Does not support sentence.
The sole remaining source is the FACT Mag source which states that he has "carved out his own space in the history of electronic music, spanning ambient, jungle, techno." This one is more ambiguous. An analogue: if I said "the Beatles' career has spanned music hall, sound collage, folk-pop, proto-metal, and Hindustani music".. this would be accurate. But it would not support the statement that the Beatles are "known" for their work in music hall, sound collage, or any of these genres. Therefore I conclude that this source also fails to support the current sentence.

These 6 citations are used to give a misleading impression in the article lead that James is "known" for working in jungle. The sources don't support this reading. They all seem to suggest that jungle is simply one of many styles that James has drawn on, not a genre he is known for working in. Kkollaps (talk) 16:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve removed the reference to being “known for” the styles in which the artist produces music. If we are applying your very close approach to the sourcing, what is the citation for the subject being “known for” his idiosyncratic work in electronic music? Cambial — foliar❧ 21:07, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]